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	<title>Comments on: Barack Obama on the Troops: &#8220;&#8230;Just Air-Raiding Villages and Killing Civilians&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: John Manuola</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Manuola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 07:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The left are always so quick to divert attention from their own gaffes and onto the gaffes of others (primarily those of conservatives).  And they know they can get away with it for the most part because of the primarily left leaning media and their willingness to bury the stories of mistakes made by their left wing political buddies.

Fact is he said it.  All of Bush&#039;s gaffes over the years have been duly noted by left winged media types and radical bloggers.  Fair is fair...they like that word when it comes to wealth redistribution...now accept the FACT that Obama made a major gaffe here and shut up.  He screwed up...and still never apologetic...not for that comment, not for his unwillingness to support the troops with funds, not with his insistance on putting the mission there in harm&#039;s way by demanding a time table for withdraw.  

Own up, accept your mistakes, Obama.

As far as the FACT that civilians HAVE been killed, that&#039;s not what Obama was saying...read the quote...look up the YouTube video...he said, &quot;...that requires us to have enough troops so that we’re not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians...&quot;

not JUST air-raiding villages and killing civilians...like that&#039;s ALL our troops are doing over there.  What a pathetic jerk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The left are always so quick to divert attention from their own gaffes and onto the gaffes of others (primarily those of conservatives).  And they know they can get away with it for the most part because of the primarily left leaning media and their willingness to bury the stories of mistakes made by their left wing political buddies.</p>
<p>Fact is he said it.  All of Bush&#8217;s gaffes over the years have been duly noted by left winged media types and radical bloggers.  Fair is fair&#8230;they like that word when it comes to wealth redistribution&#8230;now accept the FACT that Obama made a major gaffe here and shut up.  He screwed up&#8230;and still never apologetic&#8230;not for that comment, not for his unwillingness to support the troops with funds, not with his insistance on putting the mission there in harm&#8217;s way by demanding a time table for withdraw.  </p>
<p>Own up, accept your mistakes, Obama.</p>
<p>As far as the FACT that civilians HAVE been killed, that&#8217;s not what Obama was saying&#8230;read the quote&#8230;look up the YouTube video&#8230;he said, &#8220;&#8230;that requires us to have enough troops so that we’re not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>not JUST air-raiding villages and killing civilians&#8230;like that&#8217;s ALL our troops are doing over there.  What a pathetic jerk.</p>
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		<title>By: justin kaufmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>justin kaufmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all he says, &quot;problems&quot; not pressure.  Second of all, how about instead of criticizing his remarks, we look at the facts.  If you want to criticize comments made on national TV or in the public forum, take a look at good ole &quot;W&quot; and tell me if he&#039;s the perfect public speaker.

The fact of the matter is that his message is sincere...we need MORE troops to avoid mishaps and military error.  This shouldn&#039;t be seen as anything but patriotic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all he says, &#8220;problems&#8221; not pressure.  Second of all, how about instead of criticizing his remarks, we look at the facts.  If you want to criticize comments made on national TV or in the public forum, take a look at good ole &#8220;W&#8221; and tell me if he&#8217;s the perfect public speaker.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is that his message is sincere&#8230;we need MORE troops to avoid mishaps and military error.  This shouldn&#8217;t be seen as anything but patriotic.</p>
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		<title>By: dafax</title>
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		<dc:creator>dafax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 20:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE FACT CHECK:

A check of the facts shows that Western forces have been killing civilians at a faster rate than the insurgents.

The U.S. and NATO say they don&#039;t have civilian casualty figures, but The Associated Press has been keeping count based on figures from Afghan and international officials. Tracking civilian deaths is a difficult task because they often occur in remote and dangerous areas that are difficult to reach and verify.

As of Aug. 1, the AP count shows that while militants killed 231 civilians in attacks in 2007, Western forces killed 286. Another 20 were killed in crossfire that can&#039;t be attributed to one party.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai expressed his concern about the civilian deaths during a meeting last week with President Bush.

Bush said he understands the agony that Afghans feel over the loss of innocent lives and that he is doing everything he can to protect them. He said the Taliban are using civilians as human shields and have no regard for their lives.

&quot;The president rightly expressed his concerns about civilian casualty,&quot; Bush said of Karzai. &quot;And I assured him that we share those concerns.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE FACT CHECK:</p>
<p>A check of the facts shows that Western forces have been killing civilians at a faster rate than the insurgents.</p>
<p>The U.S. and NATO say they don&#8217;t have civilian casualty figures, but The Associated Press has been keeping count based on figures from Afghan and international officials. Tracking civilian deaths is a difficult task because they often occur in remote and dangerous areas that are difficult to reach and verify.</p>
<p>As of Aug. 1, the AP count shows that while militants killed 231 civilians in attacks in 2007, Western forces killed 286. Another 20 were killed in crossfire that can&#8217;t be attributed to one party.</p>
<p>Afghan President Hamid Karzai expressed his concern about the civilian deaths during a meeting last week with President Bush.</p>
<p>Bush said he understands the agony that Afghans feel over the loss of innocent lives and that he is doing everything he can to protect them. He said the Taliban are using civilians as human shields and have no regard for their lives.</p>
<p>&#8220;The president rightly expressed his concerns about civilian casualty,&#8221; Bush said of Karzai. &#8220;And I assured him that we share those concerns.&#8221;</p>
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